3:56 PM 09/29/2011
I currently have a three yr. old Weil-Mclain Gold oil burner and have been told about these conversion burners from Nat. Grid. My plumber didn't know much about this and the guy that came out from Nat. Grid (from there roster) told me he wouldn't do this- that they brake down etc. I sort of expected this from him, in that he told me he did about 300 conversions last year, so i didn't think he was going to be interested in the less expensive job of installing one of these conversion burners. Carlin and Midco told me that they can't keep up with demand for these burners and that they work very well with Weil- McLain units.I'd appreciate any feedback and any recommendations on installers you might have used
Don't ask online.
Call Weil-McLain and ask their opinion of fitting a natural gas-burning burner into their boiler designed to work with oil, a fuel that produces a hotter flame. Ask them what you're likely to gain in effiency by doing it and ask them if there's anything else that needs to be done aside from just changing the buner. Then make your decision.
It's the cheap way around doing the job properly and I don't do it either. Ever.
4:15 PM 09/29/2011 | 0 Votes
Just to put things in perspective. If you want to conver to gas you will need:
- apply for permit
- run 1" gas line to your burner
- properly remove oil tank
- reline chimney.
I would guess these all will cost ~5-10K
New high efficiency gas boiler with all rebates will cost 1K.
So you really looking to save ~5-10% of the total cost and end up with insane and inefficient setup.
9:35 PM 09/29/2011 | 1 Votes
as mp and bobjohn said... if it seems too good to be true, it probably is a lie... you are trying to convert a boiler designed for oil into a boiler designed for gas by simply changing the burner..the target temperature and distances are totally different...a total waste of money
11:12 PM 09/29/2011 | 0 Votes
Well here's my real world experience.... I am in the process of repairing the fireboxes on 6 Slant Fin boilers that have a similar type burner to what you are describing. What will most likely wind up happening, unless you have a great burner mechanic to tune your burner, is that the flame will impinge the walls of the boiler. This will wreck the refractory, target wall, burner mounting plate insulation etc etc.. Eventually you may get leaks between the sections as the rope burns away and heats up the gaskets. Unless of course you get a great burner mechanic. BTW I am not that burner mechanic, I don't like Carlins, Becketts, etc.
Replace the boiler, if you plan to stay in the house for a number of years, you might want to explore installing a sealed combustion, gas, boiler.
11:33 AM 09/30/2011 | 0 Votes
Why are people so hot to convert to gas? I'm not sure it's worth it -- especially not if you have a new boiler. OK, maybe gas means less pollution in the environment, that's important. But my oil system works really well, so far the cost is the same as gas, and I'm happy to have a choice of oil suppliers and not to be dealing with National Grid (except for stove gas). I have had so many problems with them in the past with incorrect billing and them thinking the gas was on when it was off and vice versa, it is simply amazing to me they can continue to conduct business.
11:06 PM 09/30/2011 | 0 Votes
I sell Wayne conversion burnersand I don't sell too many throughout the year. Alot of inspectors want a letter from the boiler manufacturer stating that it's o.k. to do this to their boiler. So far not one boiler manufacturer will submit any kind of letter stating that it's o.k. to do, and you will lose any kind of warranty on the boiler if you use a conversion burner. Bite the bullit and do it the right way. Install a new boiler. YOU DO have to reline your chimney if converting from oil to gas. Don't let anyone tell you different. There's reasons we have codes and inspectors: It's to protect you, the homeowner/enduser. You go cheap, you get cheap.
12:09 PM 10/02/2011 | 0 Votes
cd1065 - cost of the heating also depends on the efficiency of the burner. If you have two houses, can you compare the efficiencies of their boilers?
When I converted from oil to gas I got about 2x savings. BUT I converted from 100 years old boiler (wood and coal boiler converted into oil boiler). And I converted to high efficiency gas boiler. So I vent from ~50% to 87% efficiency.
I doubt you will see the same dramatic improvement if you replace burner on the same boiler since it most likely will make it less efficient.
11:23 PM 10/02/2011 | 0 Votes
Good luck finding good burner mechanic.
8:52 AM 10/09/2011 | 0 Votes
Good experience to convert oil furnace to gas. http://www.cleanairheat.ca/
7:01 AM 02/23/2013 | 0 Votes