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Iron gates on windows

4:44 PM 05/01/2012

 

Sorry if this is an elementary odd question. The iron gates on garden apartment windows .....they are all over park slope. Are these illegal? I understand in order for them to be legal they have to swing open but none of them seem to.
Can someone share some wisdom on this? They add a beautiful touch to a brownstone but I’m confused on if i should keep them or not?
 

 

 

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    We just went through this in our re-finance. Legally, they have to be able to swing open. We had to remove the ones that didn't swing open or else the bank would not approve our re-fi. They're added on for safety and security but it not a requirement to have them. That was my understanding as per the bank. 

    5:29 PM 05/01/2012 | 0 Votes

     

     

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    • Thank you! We removed them too for the bank - however i would like them back on - i think they add a lot of charm - maybe i can find nice ones that swing open (here is to hoping)

      5:46 PM 05/01/2012

          
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    I believe that window gates only need to open out if they are needed for emergency/fire egress, whether on the garden floor or above onto a fire escape. 

    10:00 PM 05/01/2012 | 0 Votes

     

     

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    usually when it is a bank or insurnace company, i've seen many cases where they aren't too concerned with whether or not something is within the requirements for proper egress and fire safety.  
     
    I've seen people have an ironsmith retrofit existing bars that are re-framed to open from the middle with a simple latch for inside ocupant, while much less secure still provides deterrent and doesn't look ghastly.  but it is more for appearances, the key is to make it look natural so the bad guys just assume its solid.  that will work for a while i guess.  if you like to sleep with your window open and have bars, then i guess ugly it is.  

    12:16 AM 05/02/2012 | 0 Votes

     

     

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    It is legal if you have front and rear exits on the same floor. However, some insurance and mortgage companies don't like them. Some brownstone owners in landmarked areas find themselves in a catch-22, not allowed to remove window bars per the LPC rules, and yet having trouble with their out of state insurer or mortgage company. However, they can always find another company who understands the NYC situation.

    4:41 PM 05/02/2012 | 0 Votes

     

     

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    We were told that only one had to open on any side of the house, so that's what we have...

    8:03 AM 07/06/2012 | 0 Votes

     

     

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