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MAJOR tenant issues

1:07 PM 02/26/2013

 

Need to evict a non paying tenant/squatter in my elder fathers building. It is a family occupied building. My father allowed her and her children to move in lease free because he is of the family taking care of family generation. She has since changed the locks, installed a steel door & door alarm. Her children urinate in the hallways and harass the other tenants and neighbors on the block (Child services has been called several times).  We also need access to the apartment, whatever she is doing while in residence is causing SERIOUS water damage to the apartment below (Water damage extends to the basement of this five story building and now there is mold). After making several rational attempts to speak with her she has had an order of restraint issued against my father. He can't sleep in his home, despite video evidence of false statement and claim. I am at my wits end and I've made inquiries @ 311, need any and all HELPFUL advice.
 
 

 

 

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    WOW, self entitlement run rampant

    1:20 PM 02/26/2013 | -2 Votes

     

     

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    Wow indeed.  I would consider offering them money to leave. if they take it, it can save you a lot of grief, and even end up being cheaper. If they don't then you really need to start the process of a legal eviction.

    1:52 PM 02/26/2013 | 0 Votes

     

     

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    Do NOT offer them money to leave. Emergency repair requires no advance notice from LL to tenant, but that does NOT give a LL carte blanche to do whatever you want, whenever you want. For more information, call 212-962-4795, http://www.cwtfhc.org/contact-...
    You would do better to vist their information desk in person at Brooklyn housing court: 141 Livingston Street, Second Floor Clerk’s Office – Room 202, Brooklyn NY, 11201
    Monday through Thursday, 9 am to 4:30 pm, Friday 9 am to 1 pm (Maybe closed between 1pm and 2pm)
    You can also read this link: http://www.cwtfhc.org/for-land...

    2:02 PM 02/26/2013 | 1 Votes

     

     

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    I'm chary of an actual restraining order issued in this situation.  Really?????

    4:03 PM 02/26/2013 | 0 Votes

     

     

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    Restraining orders are commonly abused. Whenever there is a conflict, the first one to run and get a bogus restraining order wins. Fact of life in the big government paradise.

    5:04 PM 02/26/2013 | 0 Votes

     

     

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    classic no good deed goes unpunished - This is why I have long said do not rent to anyone you know. I had a friends and family program for many years with an ever incresing degree of weirdness. The next to last broke into the adjoining vacant apartment, called the cops and saiid she had a break-in and handed me a pile of receipts she said I owed her for the break-in. The cops solved the case after they were there for five muinutes. She ended up moving out a few months later and she had the movers take some of the appliances.

    5:07 PM 02/26/2013 | 0 Votes

     

     

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    classic no good deed goes unpunished - This is why I have long said do not rent to anyone you know. I had a friends and family program for many years with an ever incresing degree of weirdness. The next to last broke into the adjoining vacant apartment, called the cops and saiid she had a break-in and handed me a pile of receipts she said I owed her for the break-in. The cops solved the case after they were there for five muinutes. She ended up moving out a few months later and she had the movers take some of the appliances.

    5:07 PM 02/26/2013 | 0 Votes

     

     

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    Restraining orders are commonly abused. Whenever there is a conflict, the first one to run and get a bogus restraining order wins. Fact of life in the big government paradise.

    6:04 PM 02/26/2013 | -1 Votes

     

     

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    Good Morning - Thank you all for the helpful advice

    11:10 AM 02/27/2013 | 0 Votes

     

     

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    You have to start the Holdover Procedure in the housing court. I would suggest you start it right away, since it can take up to 6 months. Thankfully, she has no lease, or it may take even longer. Go to 44 Court Street, buy the required forms. You first have to serve her with a notice that she has to leave, but unfortunately - she has to be given at least 30 days from the time of her next payment (if you serve her today, 2/28, then she has to leave by March 31st. But if you serve her March 2nd, then she has until April 30th to leave). Only after this time expires, can you start a procedure in court against her. Make sure to serve the initial notice to her correctly - you cannot do it, it has to be someone NOT involved in the proceeding (friend, neighbor, licensed process server). As the person above said, you can go to 141 Livingston to get help, but a lot of this information is online as well. You have to be very careful, though - if any of the process is not done correctly, your case is thrown out of court, and you have to start the proces all anew.

    10:58 AM 02/28/2013 | 0 Votes

     

     

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    • Yes, the process is designed to be very difficult for the landlord. And I appreciate why that is. But, it means you need to avoid this process if you can. It will be long, drawn out, contentious, expensive, emotionally difficult, and in the end, you might end up losing more than you gain. There are a hundred things that can go wrong for the landlord, but the tenant wins by getting to stay rent free for the next six months and maybe longer. This is why people offer cash to problem tenants to vacate. You tell the tenant that you are about to start eviction proceedings and that you will legally go after them for every dime they owe you. You then offer that if they agree to vacate in 30 days, you will refund them x amount of money they paid in the past for rent. They will get it when they turn over the keys and sign an agreement reliquinishing the apartment. Faced with the choice of being evicted and leaving empty handed - or leaving sooner with a few thousand dollars in pocket- most will leave. It is hard to offer money to someone who has been essentially stealing it from you, but being a landlord is a business and one must use the cold calculaton of profit and loss and risk vs reward. Pay a litte now, or pay a lot over the next year.

      1:03 PM 02/28/2013

          

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